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Joel Limebeer

Page history last edited by JO37 14 years, 11 months ago

Why Cant We Humans Achieve Immortality?

 

     In the old testament, we were told about the Garden of Eden. How there was the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. The Woman of god was tricked to have a fruit from the tree of knowledge that god had so strickly said not to. In consequence, the male and female were banished from the Garden of Eden. (genisis 2-3 summed up, in-form me if im wrong.)

 

     I only recently started to read the bible. After these short few chapters i didn't know wether i believe in this "theory" or not; and it made me wonder why "god", if this is true, told the humans to not eat from the tree. 

 

     Skipping ahead from what i just wrote, which i'll come back to later, I believe that earth is not the Garden of Eden. I believe this planet was created as a way for ourselves to prove that we deserve to be brought back to the Garden of Eden. If you dont understand let me continue.

 

     Sense the humans of genisis 2-3 did not listen to god. I believe that god created this earth as a "prison of redemption". Depending upon what we do to the earth, what we caused the earth to do as indiviuals, and in the end, the "apocalypse" gods horse-men will come down and choose who will be able to return to the Garden of Eden. Thus reaching my question. 

 

Say if the old testimate is wrong and my theory is wrong. Why can't humans reach Immortality?

 

Disease, time, death. Is all a factor of mortality. To be Immortal you must have a "Knowledge of the Gods". (I would say.) 

 

I was walking at night in a park recenty and all i could think about was that we were all destined to die or thats how its been for the past several thousands of years. I started to question, maybe immortalitly does not exist at all. maybe we were lied to all these thousands of years. maybe gods dont exist, and someone has created a false theory that we all for some reason follow. Sense humans as a whole are easy to predict and minipulate.

 

So as this person or people who created these tales, books and scriptures are now dead, we are still eating out of their dead, decaying hands.  

Comments (10)

Brock Baker said

at 12:55 pm on Feb 11, 2009

jOEL YOU BE CRAZY people love bexuasae its instinccal

JO37 said

at 12:56 pm on Feb 12, 2009

Intinctional? But whats instinction? An action humans compose and act upon?

Mark P said

at 5:53 pm on Feb 12, 2009

I believe he means love is an instinct, which are the commands or behaviors ingrained into our minds at birth. Of course, that could lead to the love/lust argument, whereupon I say that love does not necessarily have to be tied with lust.
Think of your parents, your siblings, your family in general. While you "love" them, it is not (usually O_O) a lustful relationship.

Jennifer said

at 9:34 pm on Feb 12, 2009

I like your question, it would be cool if you could give more definitions of "love" and "hate" and once you have come up with a variety of degrees or types you can distinguish their origins or limits.

Emily Neilson said

at 1:06 am on Mar 3, 2009

emotions are observed and learned.
love is an emotion so it is learned. you mother and father show you love from a very early age therefore you see it and ''monkey see monkey do''
it is the same with hate, if you come from a home that is very hostile and filled wth hate then its the same situation ''monkey see monkey do''

Mark P said

at 12:48 pm on Apr 28, 2009

Immortality... To be immortal, does it have to be in one single life? Does being reincarnated count as still living, or do you have to retain your past thoughts and memories as well?

JO37 said

at 12:09 pm on Apr 30, 2009

good question. how can we know that reincarnation is still living, so we dont know that we may or may not have been reincarnated. as the buhhdists thought that we had levels of reincarnation. an example of; a plant to a bug to a fish to a mamal to a human. still can that even count as immortality, does memory count as immortality? mhmm, perhaps immortality does have something to do with reincarnation, as some thought that god is in everything and everyone. maybe we have the ability to become immortal but no ones ever been able to tap into the ability...

Zubie said

at 4:52 pm on May 12, 2009

this can be related to the guest speaker we had not too long ago, the one that talked about genetically modifying our genes to live longer. I think that by simply extending our life span, we would be causing massive damage. The populations of the world would increase like crazy, the Earth'd natural resources would be stressed out even more then they are and so on. If humans were immortal, I hate to say it but we probably would not be alive, there would prpbably be a band on the number of children people can have (if they can have any) since the population would grow rapidly. Also, isn't death part of "growing"? We fear it, and that's what makes living soo good. If we were immortal, would there still be a drive to live life to the fullest?

JO37 said

at 12:13 pm on May 15, 2009

I agree, with immortality, anywhere humans live, the planet/area/source would de off. i think of the human race as a virus, and the planet our host. Viruses dont intentionally kill off human beings, they try to live inside us for survival, but incedentally end our lives. Such as ourselves now. We dont mean to intentionally kill the earth and destroy the resources it contains, but it is our only means of survival. Only part i do not agree with is immortality and dying. Is it not that immortality is to live without the fear of death, also if man was immortal, could humans not have more time and endless chance of knowledge to learn other options of living, such as more hydro power, not saying i believe its true, but it is said that without humans it would only take the earth a few years to "heal up" without humans. But lets no forget, also the earth is bound to dispatch itself ad disappear eventually on its own anyway. So humans as immortals may learn new and more useful knowledge that we would usually not learn in our 100 year life time, but an infinate life. However, as humans multiply our population, i could see humans taking over more and more planets, cause of human nature. Maybe humans are not permissioned by immortality because of our lack of knowledge and our increasing selfishness and lazyness, which so happen to be sins.

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